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Why don’t other countries have ads? I have never been to a real pub outside of the UK or Ireland. Scotty Gascoigne, Haggerston

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Give it another decade and we won’t have either. Massive beer taxes, high rents and people’s craze for overpriced coffee and cakes will kill them. Jon Hillman

It is linked to the climate of the British Isles, allowing its inhabitants not to heat their moldy houses. They find it a much better idea to cram into a cozy pub, enjoying the warmth of the fireplace as well as gin. Other less fortunate nations prefer their living rooms to be constantly heated. Rolf Ericsson

One of the main reasons pubs don’t exist outside of our northern corner of Europe is the climate. Much of the alcohol-consuming world has a more reliable climate, giving rise to the culture of sidewalk cafes. Coupled with our unhealthy relationship with alcohol caused primarily by the escape from our longer work weeks (poor work-life balance), this has led to our pub culture. Paul Merry

It is just one of those cultural traditions that have evolved in a certain part of the world due to the uniqueness of a society, history, climate, cuisine, etc. only country with “real” bistros, or the United States the only country with “real” restaurants. In all these cases, the type of settlement has evolved according to the unique cultural and societal characteristics of these countries. The concept of a ‘social gathering place with food and drink for local residents’ is not unique to the British Isles, but the specific features of such establishments will obviously reflect local conditions (pubs with large chimneys for the cold climate, for example, or bars designed to meet the needs of industrial workers who wanted some social interaction at the end of their long shifts). nugget

I’m Dutch and I might as well ask why there isn’t drizzle kroegen (brown coffees) anywhere else in the world. With Persian rugs on the tables. johan1974

Pubs are what sociologist Ray Oldenburg calls “third places”, “meeting places at the heart of a community”. They generate a sense of belonging and provide a “neutral ground”, which is characterized by privacy and comfort, but which cannot be attributed either entirely to the sphere of the state or to the sphere of the economy, neither to private life nor to the public, but which mediates between the respective spheres and therefore has a social balancing effect. So understood, third places can be found in many societies – in my home town of Vienna, the café would be one such place. So it seems to me that the original thesis that what characterizes a decent pub exists only in the UK and Ireland may not be entirely correct – at least if we look at it through sociological glasses. thmswtz

Lots of locals Kneipen (singular Kneipe) to find in Germany There is even a word for your local around the corner, Eckkneipe. Bekaha010

Estonian village landscapes certainly had something similar to pubs: known as kõrts, a place where men went to drink and socialize, notorious for excessive drinking, fights, and other annoyances. Compared to a century ago, the few kõrtsid which now remain cater to tourists and are much more food-centric, and locals with alcohol problems congregate near village grocery stores. If anyone is visiting I recommend Altja kõrts in Lahemaa National Park, great food. Viitna kõrts is more famous but less authentic, and the food is average. false negative

I’m sad for the questioner who claims only the UK and Ireland have real pubs. He obviously never went to the blessed shores of Canada where the friendliest pubs await him. In my home province of Nova Scotia, the pub culture is particularly strong, with the classic dishes of fish and chips (oh, the fresh fish they offer) and other delicious if less-than-healthy dishes. Live music in the evening is also central to the culture. And while I’m extolling the merits of Nova Scotia’s pubs, rest assured that a warm welcome awaits you throughout this vast country where pubs reign. Come and have a pint, my friend. You will not regret it. Tim Gauthier, Fort Smith, Northwest Territories, Canada

I speak for Germany. The Germans are too dumb to understand the concept of ordering at the bar and paying directly, then walking away with your drink and the food brought to your table. The Germans insist on sitting down, then have to wait for a waiter to arrive. Then they order, wait for drinks and food, and when they’re done, they greet and wait for a server to pay. Lots of waiting. Since I discovered the concept of advertising, I regularly start pulling my hair out, but that’s how it is here in Germany.

There was a very popular place for students in Erlangen, called the Pleitegeier, where ordering and serving worked like in a pub. Well, guess what – they surveyed their customers to see if they should switch to the German model and, surprisingly, the customers wanted it. So now it’s the usual vibe: everyone sits at their own table, waiting for the, uh, waiter. Marion Dickten

Come to think of it, to have pubs or pub-like spaces, there are cultural prerequisites. A strong drinking culture, of course, but also a culture that values ​​a kind of communal togetherness centered around the consumption of alcohol. There’s no word in English for this kind of boozy group hygge, but I think it really does exist. fantod

I read this headline in the Guardian and thought ‘let me think, that’s probably not quite right’, but the more I thought about it, the more I tended to agree! patrick cusack

It looks like you haven’t had the chance to visit the Czech Republic, and not just Prague: Plzeň, Hradec Králové, České Budějovice, Brno all have pubs that have a great atmosphere, great beer and healthy, fresh food. low price, especially in winter. Mike O’Connell

I’ve done quite a bit of international travel in my life and I believe it comes down to two main factors. First, the weather: in Ireland, Northern Ireland, Scotland, Wales and England, it’s unpredictable at best and often quite crappy. So having a nice, dry, warm place (with a roof) to show off some pints and meet your buddies is a must. Second, the jokes. In this part of the world we like to talk shit, especially the weather. So having a nice, dry, warm place (with a roof) to show off some pints and meet your buddies is a must. Liam

I’ve been to real pubs in Toronto and Cambridge Ontario. Great pubs in Montreal and lots of what I would call pubs in Halifax, Nova Scotia. Maybe I don’t know what a pub is. J Barbour, Dartmouth, Nova Scotia

You need to get out more. Been in real pubs in Germany, Belgium, Netherlands, France, Spain, Portugal, Canada, USA and Australia. Tim Sale

I have to take issue with the statement about real pubs that don’t exist outside of the UK and Ireland. Please accept my invitation to visit the tavern in the old town of Marbella as part of your research. Bob Evans

I think you may need to broaden your understanding of “pub”. We here in the high mountains of northern New Mexico have a brewing co-op with 1) a fireplace, 2) bartenders who know your name, 3) doggos are welcome everywhere. The beer isn’t bad too. Sure it’s in a “mall” but they are good people and a great addition to our town. Not all “pubs” have thatched roofs, but they do have a sense of community and openness. Michael Johnson, Los Alamos

Oh, oh, why is Latvia the only country with a real krogi?! mikkamobile

A proper pub is where you can go for a drink, not make any arrangements, and be sure you’ll know people to sit with. I’ve only had this in two places in my life – one was in California. PeteTheBeat

Well, here I am in New Jersey smoking a cigar in a pub, comfy leather chairs, food, draft beer but no open fire. Everywhere I’ve worked and lived outside of the UK – from South Africa, Hong Kong, Denmark, Turkey to the US – there are pubs, maybe you call them bars, but honestly, there are pubs everywhere… Cleveland had a great pub/bar culture, it was no different from the pubs I drank in the UK. USLanky34

Years ago I was traveling from Belfast to Dublin well after closing time when my companion (who was driving) said, “Fancy a drink?” He knocked on the door of a row of terraced houses around Dundalk Quays – there was no indication of a licensed establishment. Inside there was a small bar not much bigger than a living room and a fire in the grill. No draft beer, just bottled Guinness. It was warm and you could stay as long as you wanted. That’s what I call a real pub. Garloch

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